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beserk · Jul 13, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

I have EOTN and PROPHECIES only, keeping that in mind could i improve their builds since im starting HM in everything now.

[Ogden;OwYT04HDHSjYmYlIgYjY6LCEZAA] Energy bar =58

[Vekk;OgBCoMzQt0ibv+qLxAD] Energy bar =94

Note: both ele and monk have perfect 20/20 staffs with 20% enchants on them.

hope ive given enough info for advice thanks in advance.

aleaf92 · Jul 13, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

[build=WoH Hybrid;OwYT04nCxRjsR20Ij7a9Y6LTA]

Healing Prayers-12+1+1 Prot-10+1 Divine Favor- 8+1

This is the build I run sometimes. Since you don't have NF, switch out [Dismiss Condition] for [Mend Ailment] or [Spotless Soul] and [Shield of Absorption] for [Shielding Hands]. [Rebirth] should be disabled because its for wipes only. Most people don't even run resurrection skills.

miskav · Jul 13, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Maybe on the ele take out [Mark of Rodgort] for [Resurrection signet]

luwe80 · Jul 13, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29

How do heroes run that E bar? Energy wise I mean.

miskav · Jul 13, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

I'm wondering how Vekks a E/rt when you don't have factions o.o.

Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't that prevent him from going e/rt?

beserk · Jul 13, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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Originally Posted by miskav

I'm wondering how Vekks a E/rt when you don't have factions o.o.

Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't that prevent him from going e/rt?

I unlocked xandra (rt hero), that was a mistake to make vekk a /rt though i changed it to just ele.

Tyla · Jul 13, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

If you're running Ether Renewal, full damage is kinda bad. You should put some support like Protective Spirit on it with Rodgorts and another direct damage skill with the rest being support. Shield Guardian is a skill that is highly viable and effective on an Ether Renewal bar with 3 enchantments.

You should remove the radiants on the Monk and take out RoF for something else; heroes suck with that skill. Same with the Ele for radiants, if you need more energy with that sort of energy management something is wrong.

I suggest Aleaf's bar, except Dismiss for Spotless Soul and the res for Aegis or Guardian.

beserk · Jul 13, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Tyla

If you're running Ether Renewal, full damage is kinda bad. You should put some support like Protective Spirit on it with Rodgorts and another direct damage skill with the rest being support. Shield Guardian is a skill that is highly viable and effective on an Ether Renewal bar with 3 enchantments.

You should remove the radiants on the Monk and take out RoF for something else; heroes suck with that skill. Same with the Ele for radiants, if you need more energy with that sort of energy management something is wrong.

I suggest Aleaf's bar, except Dismiss for Spotless Soul and the res for Aegis or Guardian.

For vekk What if i switch [ether renewal] for [elemental attunement] and leave the rest as it is?

And as for Ogden what about [word of healing] [mend ailment] [shielding hands] [aegis] [dwayna's kiss] [cure hex] [protective spirit] [glyph of lesser energy] ?

la_cabra_de_vida · Jul 13, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Kinda basic woh monk:

[word of healing][dwayna's kiss][no skill][no skill][no skill][protective spirit][aegis][glyph of lesser energy]

Then just throw in
[mend ailment]
[cure hex]
[healing seed]
[patient spirit]

for whatever the situation requires.

Tyla · Jul 13, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by beserk

For vekk What if i switch [ether renewal] for [elemental attunement] and leave the rest as it is?

Savannah Heat, and put in [[ward against melee] if you're caster and want to have a defensive turn or [[splinter weapon] if you're melee and want to have an offensive turn, providing nobody else on your team has Splinter.

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And as for Ogden what about [word of healing] [dwayna's kiss] [mend ailment] [shielding hands] [protective spirit] [cure hex] [aegis] [glyph of lesser energy] ?

I guess that could work. I doubt on my heroes with short recharge condition removals. Usually I have Foul Feast on a Minion Bomber so my team doesn't have to worry about conditions. But in the case of not having a Minion Bomber, Spotless Soul comes in first place.

beserk · Jul 13, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Savannah Heat, and put in [[ward against melee] if you're caster and want to have a defensive turn or [[splinter weapon] if you're melee and want to have an offensive turn, providing nobody else on your team has Splinter.

i dont have SF as its in factions i have only eotn and proph =( so should i still go for [elemental attunement] ?

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I guess that could work. I doubt on my heroes with short recharge condition removals. Usually I have Foul Feast on a Minion Bomber so my team doesn't have to worry about conditions. But in the case of not having a Minion Bomber, Spotless Soul comes in first place.

so i switch spotless soul for which skill on the bar i gave?

miskav · Jul 13, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

I'd assume mend condition, if you have faith in the second monk on your team.

Mad King Corn · Jul 13, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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take out RoF for something else; heroes suck with that skill

Why? I have it in my heroes bar, don't they use it correctly?

Is there a list anywhere that shows what skills that heroes don't use correctly?

beserk · Jul 14, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Ok ive decided to go with the following;

[word of healing] [spotless soul] [shielding hands] [aegis] [dwayna's kiss] [cure hex] [protective spirit] [glyph of lesser energy]

and

[Vekk;OgBCoMzQt0ibv+qLxAD]

Taking [ether renewal] out and replacing it with [savannah heat]

Tyla · Jul 14, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

By the way, your Ele bar still needs utility. I suggest Ward Against Melee instead of Mark of Rodgort.

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Originally Posted by Mad Corn King

Why? I have it in my heroes bar, don't they use it correctly?

Is there a list anywhere that shows what skills that heroes don't use correctly?

There's a thread somewhere.

But the reason they suck with it is they use the prot after they take big damage instead of before.

zwei2stein · Jul 14, 2008, 05:58 AM // 05:58

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Originally Posted by beserk

... Energy bar =58

... Energy bar =94

Note: both ele and monk have perfect 20/20 staffs with 20% enchants on them.

...

Seems like you are running energy insignia and runes. You really want to replace them with health insigni and runes for hm.

Nainoa · Jul 14, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13

That fire ele with SH elite is going to run out of mana very quick with fire attunement being the only energy management skill.

distilledwill · Jul 14, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Seems like you are running energy insignia and runes. You really want to replace them with health insigni and runes for hm.

QFT, with that in mind, you might want to try using [[Signet Of Rejuvenation] instead of Dwayna's Kiss, helps with the energy management. Seeing as energy management > having a big energy pool.

beserk · Jul 14, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Seems like you are running energy insignia and runes. You really want to replace them with health insigni and runes for hm.

im planning to replace their attunement runes on their chests with superior vigor runes to get their health up from 510 to 560...problem solved =p high energy and health XD.

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

QFT, with that in mind, you might want to try using [[Signet Of Rejuvenation] instead of Dwayna's Kiss, helps with the energy management. Seeing as energy management > having a big energy pool.

I only have eotn and proph atm =( im a broke student ^^.

Marverick · Jul 14, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

If you want skills from campaigns that you don't have for your heroes, there is a way.

Find a boss with that skill (Borgus Blisterbark has SF, Ilsundur, Lord of Fire has SH and Glowing Gaze) and capture it. It will appear locked to you, but if you place it on your heroes' skill bar, they can use it.